'If This Isn’t Addiction, I Don’t Know What Is': Light’s Founders Get Real About Screen Time

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Kaiwei Tang and Joe Hollier, co-founders of the Light Phone, have spent over a decade championing simplicity in our relationship with technology. By 2026, their minimalist vision has attracted notable partners including Andrew Yang, Kendrick Lamar, and Pete Davidson. Now, with the launch of a new flip phone and a surging “attention activist” movement pushing back against Big Tech, they believe the rest of the world is finally catching up.


In this episode of TechCrunch’s Equity podcast, Amanda Silberling speaks with Tang and Hollier about the company’s newly unveiled flip phone, why they think the anti-smartphone backlash is only beginning, and what it takes to break an addiction that fits in your pocket.


Key topics covered:


  • How design lessons from the original Motorola Razr shaped the new Light Flip
  • What the “Summer of Ludd” attention activist movement reveals about Gen Z’s relationship with Big Tech
  • Why Light Phone is opening an SDK to let users build their own tools instead of relying on a traditional app store

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